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Q. your name
A: Nadia Youna
Q :how are you
A: with God I am
well. We faith in Jesus Christ
Q: Tell us when did
you leave, why and hoe
A: (sarcastically”
don’t you Know, as if we live a Luxurious life and going on a trip), we fled on
7:00 A.M, they wanted to capture us on the road the intersection of (
Shallalat) , well they stopped us, with us was what we had left of our money.
We only had 2 million dinars left( one million Dinar is less than $1000.00- the
translator), we had some money, but for as long as two months we were forced to
stay home using whatever we have, banks were closed, Christians were not even
allowed to collect their salaries. We tried as much as we can to save since we
do not know what will happen in the future, they took it all, they took it all,
when we fled my sister and I had to rap the money on our waists to keep it
hidden, my brother, that one is very ill, with a thousand of illness, he had
suffered a lot since the Iraq Iran war he is handicapped, ok, one of them told
me “you have to undress, do you want me to believe that you do not have money?’
well he put his hand in my brother’s pocket and took the money, then he told me
“ come down you and your sister” he said “ where is the money” , I said we only
have some Dinars for food, and water , I said, “ consider it as charity from
you to me, if you have a family would you like for them to go through what we
are going through” he said” go to your people, your priests they will feed you
and give you a shelter and protect you” he says “ we have respected you at the
beginning, but it seems that you do not deserve our respect” he said, then I
said” what wrong have we done to you”, I said” when you first came we respected
you as much as your fellow Muslims did” I said,” He said we guarded your
churches”, I said how so”
Brother: “they
burned them”
Nadia” “I did not
tell them that, I was not aware of it, I did not tell him that, I was not aware
of burning the churches”
Q: you are from
Mosul.
A: Yes from Mosul
Q; you are the original Native people of Mosul,
A: our fathers and
Grandfathers lived here.
Q: So, you were
expelled out of your native land.
A: yes, from our
home land. From our Owen land, they told us go, this not your land any more, go
to your people, go to your priests, have them feed you, and take care of you,
have them give you a home, he said”
both you and your sister, give me your money, otherwise, you
will both receive a built in your heads, but before you both receive the built,
you will see one going in your brother’s head, then we will throw down her on
the dirt. Give up the money”.
my mother is a
handicapped very ill person, when we fled we were thinking that she might pass
away any minute, then we will bury her in ( Shehk Matte) , he asked me “ are
you hiding anything underneath her, are you hiding gold or jewelries beneath
her, I said” go check if you want, you have taken everything we have” I said “
would like us to undress here on the road, if you have a mother or sister,
would you like for the to be undressed in the middle of the road, and you say
you are Muslim and, do you consider yourself a Muslim, haven’t you say, we are
Muslims and we do not attack women, I said you now are attacking us”
Q: Sir you are the
brother.
A: yes
Q: your name
A: Faris Younan
Q: tell us talk
about you suffering there, your sister just told us, now she is the daughter of
Mosul, you are one of the original people of Mosul, what was your problem
there, why do you feel that they intended to do so?
A; well they gave us
a certain time to leave, not more that some hours, they gave us ten hours to
leave, what can you do in ten hours, how would you plan or prepare a
destination
Q: on their web
sits, they claim that they gave you 3 days.
A; that is not true,
they announced that through the loud speakers of Mosques, Friday afternoon ,
any Christian wishes to stay in town after Saturday afternoon will be killed.
Nadia: sir I would
like to say that I was at home Friday afternoon, did not hear that the radio
was on did not announce it. We received a phone call from a Christian family,
friend of ours, they asked us to leave, they said leave, you care about your house,
it is not more valuable than your lives, my sister was debating during that
phone conversation weather that is a rumor, since those people have not done
any harm to us then yet. we turned the TV on, on Saturday morning and saw the
massif attack on Christians, my brother called his Muslim friends to get the
update, they told him do not take anything with you, they are not allowing
anything, food and cook where were taken from people and been thrown away.
Nadia: we only took
the necessities
Brother: we only
took pocket money, they robbed us, they stole our Mobiles, they stole the blood
pressure monitor, it is a medical instrument, they stole the diabetes monitor,
and they left us with nothing
Nadia: sir, he asked
me “what do you have in the trunk”
I said you may check
there is a bag of bread-it was even rotten due to the heat, there were tomatoes
and two canned meat, I said “please help us, let us save them for my ill
mother” I said “there is another bag full of my mother’s medication and another
one for the medication of my brother” , I said that is all we have we only
brought the necessary medications, there is as much as those at home” he said “
your home that became a property of the Islamic state”, well I did not replay
Sir, my brother said “ good for you, you could take the house and its contents.
Brother: he took the
address of the house and said it is now a property of the Islamic State, I said
well, good for you.
Nadia: he saw keys
in my hand and asked me what are these I said”
these are keys to the closets and cabinets” he said. “we
opened your houses do you think it is hard for us to open a cabinet.” I said
you may do whatever you desire, I said you could even burn it, I said the house
is full of groceries, good enough for a big family, friend told us not to bring
any food, it will be thrown to waste , I thought with myself I wish anyone
could take it and benefit from it, even if Muslims, he said” we do not need
your food” I said I know that you do not need our food but I am telling you
that I do not mind if you take it , we have stored sugar, oil and grans for the
bad days and you are welcome to take them, I also said the house dose not worth
much , it is an old small house but we do not mind if you take it, and as for
us we will go wherever”
Q; you are welcomed
here at the monastery of ( Shaikh Matti) hopefully soon you will have a good
place to stay, is there a message that you want to deliver to anyone or request
from anyone.
Naida ;" I only
plead to God, I do not plead to a human being, I plead to My Lord, My creator,
Jesus Christ, Christ who created me, He knows what is going on and how to take
care of us, I plead to His mother, His great honorable mother who helped us, I
do not plead to a man, and I turn to my church and it will take care of me, my
church will feed me, my church will bury me if it’s time for me to go and to
bury my family once they die. Mom was about to pass away yesterday, she was
vomiting and the man was asking me if there is anything hidden beneath her” I said
she is ill, would you like it for your mother, , I said, you claim that you
know God, you Muslims, and us are the unbeliever, atheist you call us
unbeliever, atheist, well one of them approached and I have to be honest and
say the truth before God, that other man was much better than the first one,
that other man was nodding get in the car, he said they will kill you
otherwise” then my brother said” we do not want to be killed and thrown here on
the dirt” there were another Christian family were shouting as well the woman
was telling them that her mom is paralyzed,. The woman was shouting, then the
man told her" do not get me mad", then he took her into the caravan,
and we do not know what happened to them afterwards, my brother said it is better
of us to be killed here together, that they take you and sister into the
caravan.
That is what we went through, for many years Christians of
Iraq are not stable and threatened, every couple years we go through this
unfairness, we think and say it is over and passed , but it starts over again,
we have been through a lot, my brother have served for ten years in the army
during the Iran war and was injured, he is our only brother, our father passed
30 years ago, my sister works, I had to quit work in order to take care of my
ill handicapped mother, why do you treat us with this much of injustice,, what
have we done wrong to you, what have all these Christians done to you, what did
the Christians harmed you with, we are as our lord said “ I have send you like
sheep in the mouths of wolves” I have send you as sheep in the mouths of
wolves” what have we done that is the crime that we have committed?
Second interview
Q; name
A; Sinan Mowafaq
Q; tell us how did
you flee why
A; we fled 2 days
ago, in the morning at 8:30 A.M when we reached the ( Shallalat ) intersection
ISIS approached us, asked us to give up our money, lab tops, mobile phones,
give up everything they said, my wedding ring, my gold cross necklaces I had
cash about two and a half million dinars the took it all, then at the end we
were about to leave they said” leave your car you are unbelievers, you are
against Islam, we gave a date to your priests to come to us and they did not,
as a retaliation we will do that “
Q you talked with
them, have you figured out from the dialect are they from Mosul or not, or
where are they from
A; there were
Afghanis, from other minorities, the one talked to me was not Arab, Afghanis
and Lebanese were among them, armed men with beards, everything was done under
the threat of weapons, he ordered me to take my clothes of, he took my ID, my
wedding certificate, they took some other documents as I told you jewelries,
cash 2 1/2 million dinars, my car I had just bought it six months ago that
worth about 2000.00 dollars, who is going to pay me back. What will happen to
us I do not know, there is no organizations that supports us, what is our
fault, what have we done wrong, we have served Mosul, sacrificed our lives and
families, why is this happening to us I do not know.
Q’ from which area
are you, and where did you flee
A; from ( Hay al-
Sukkar) , we fled to (Sheikh Mattie) we thank the monks here, they have
welcomed us and offered everything to comfort us, but you know, even though we
are still thinking of and missing our houses, you know we have lived there so
many years and it is not easy to give it up like that to an armed group, they
came in took our houses and wrote on them ( property of the Islamic state)
Q; you told us about
your personal suffering, how about your family, your job
A; I have lost my
job, no salaries, my family and I are staying here waiting for the unknown, we
do not know what will happen to us, there isn't any organization that took care
of us, no governor, we have not received any assistant
Q; in your opinion,
who is to blame
A; the government is
responsible, it allowed that otherwise how is it possible to those armed groups
to enter Mosul with their vehicles, and armed forces, they were powered with a
capacity of a state behind them , it seems that they are supported by many
states. It is an irony, misery, we live in a big irony especially for
Christians
Q; where do you wish
your voice to reach
A; well to the big
countries, we want them to feel our pain, we were forced to migrate and this is
not the first one by the way we have been through a lot in the past, we cannot
afford to migrate again, every time we come back, we say this is our home town,
we do not want to leave Mosul, but what can we do? We are forced to leave
Q; in your opinion
is there anyone in Iraq who may stand for you
A; I do not know ,
we have not seen anyone yet, they all kept silent, no governor, some only said
words, but we want action, I for instance, I have just got married, But I lost
everything, my Jewelries, my money , who will pay me back, where should I go,
no salary, no money, I have nowhere to go, we are not even allowed to receive
our share of grocery because we are Christians, we live in a mockery, we ask
the officials to look at us with respect and care, heads of the church, they
have to care about us, we are all young men and women sitting with no work, no
jobs , how long can this last, how long can we wait, they have to come up with
a solution, because it is really hard, really hard
Q; anything you wish
to add
A well we ask the
officials, everyone in the USA, Canada Australia, anyone who cares about us the
minority Christians of Iraq
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